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Hot Tips - Tips for would-be in-wall tank builders

Postby liquid » August 14th, 2007, 9:41 pm

HOT TIPS Column: August 2007 Issue of Advanced Aquarist

August's theme is "Tips for would-be in-wall tank builders. " Please submit your thoughts and ideas on what has worked for you or have seen work for others.

When published, you will have your username published (along with your real name if you so desire). Every month we will be running a new HOT TIP thread so stay tuned and help out when you can. :)

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Postby wetworx101 » August 17th, 2007, 5:04 am

Why are they called 'in-wall'? They arent IN the wall... that wouldnt work out very well because most people's walls are only 3.5" thick inside. They are 'behind the wall'...lol.

Make sure you have a well ventilated 'fish room' behind that wall with about 100cfm in bathroom/power fans per every 150 gallons of water, and have doors above the tank so you can get in the tank from the front.
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Postby Louey » August 17th, 2007, 8:06 am

My glass is flush with the wall. The way I did that was to build my stand with the 4x4's (legs) even with the wall studs. That way the drywall is flush with the wall and the stand. Then I put a double layer of marine grade plywood on top of the stand and had it hang over in the front by a half inch (the width of drywall). Then we used joint compound on the edge of the plywood to make it look 100% flush.

Then I used molding to frame the whole front of the tank to make it look like a picture hanging on the wall.

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Postby SeahorseWhisperer_ » August 17th, 2007, 10:55 am

My tanks are behind a wall, so I have room behind for a large sump and equipment. I wish I had made the supporting studs away from the tank. I get salt creep in areas I can't reach and my magfloat can't get to all the corners. Other t6han that, it is very convenient.
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Postby liquid » August 17th, 2007, 10:59 am

Photos are welcome too! :)

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Postby SeahorseWhisperer_ » August 17th, 2007, 11:29 am

I was thinking that! I'll snap some this weekend, trapped at work at the moment.
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Postby SnowManSnow » August 17th, 2007, 11:35 am

i would call them THROUGH the wall.

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Postby SnowManSnow » August 17th, 2007, 11:37 am

the first thing I would do is MAKE SURE THE WIFE DOESN'T MIND HAVING AN AQUARIUM IN THE WALL~
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Postby beaslbob » August 17th, 2007, 12:30 pm

hire a contractor
since 79 ~12 fw leidens , ~8 years FO salt, mixed reef, Currently-10g FW leiden (30 fish) since 2002, 55g display mixed reef since 2003, 20g Fw leiden from oct 2006. 29g mixed reef since 2005. Very strong emphasis on the tank maintaining itself. tap water, no water changes.
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Postby SeahorseWhisperer_ » August 20th, 2007, 3:06 pm

Here is my built in photos.

Best advice I can give: Think it through for a while. Decide what you would change in your existing tank, then design that into your final design.

I hated not having easy access to lights and equipment, and frags that fell in the back of the tank. I also did not like the fact that I could only have certain creatures that are compatible. The design I came up with is 3 separate medium sized tanks that are all plumbed to one sump. Chemical testing, water changes, fry raising and general tinkering happen behind the wall. Access is very accessible from the front panels (on hinges).
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Postby LA-Lawman » August 21st, 2007, 1:28 am

hmmmm,

measure nine times... cut once.... if you think your stand is too short. add 6 inches. be sure you have dedicated circuits. the bigger the skimmer the better. buy lights once... and stick with'em.
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Postby JimM » August 22nd, 2007, 9:12 pm

Here's the last in-wall tank that I did.
Plan ahead and take your time! Use waterproof drywall below the tank, and think twice before deciding you don't need front access. Not being able to access the front of the tank (from the front) causes all sorts of headaches.

And if you don't have construction skills, this is not the project to learn with...have someone else do it.


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Postby bleedingthought » August 27th, 2007, 1:39 pm

Mine's going to be "in-the-wall" but visible from 3 sides. Basically, sticking out of the wall. So, it'll be part of the wall but all the equipment, mess, and others will be inside the newly created reef room. :D
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Postby trido » September 9th, 2007, 9:44 am

Ive just finished building (helping) my third "In wall". Two for fellow reefers and one for myself. Ive learned a few things:

Plan a large budget. House remodeling materials arent cheap now days.
Build your tank in a part of the house with water and drain pipes. Transporting water for top off and water changes gets old and makes alot of work out of the hobby.
Wire in at least three dedicated circuits. The metal halide/actinic lighting alone (on a large tank) uses one 20 amp circuit. A chiller and large CL pump will eat up another real quickly. Its better to over build than to "wish I had done it differently".
Access from the front is a must. This is something most try to avoid due to the look of it all. Everyone wants a picture frame look. Get over it and thank yourself later for adding the access.
Make a removable/liftable light rack if possible. Access from the back of the tank can be just as valuable as front access.
Isolate your pumps with as much flex hose as possible. The tank is now part of the house. If a noisy pump is vibrating the tank it will resonate through the walls to other parts of the house.
Keep the concrete or use tile in the tank room. Mopping floods is much easier than drying carpet.
Keep the tank room well ventilated. A large, quiet bath fan setup with a dehumidistat will automate the moisture removal for you. Of course, the room will need a fresh air intake to accomodate the air you are removing.
Make sure you are happy with the size of your new tank. You cant simply buy a bigger tank and stand two years from now. This is more permanent than most pieces of furniture in your house.

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