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Postby bobimport » January 20th, 2010, 2:45 pm

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Re: cyanide fishing

Postby JennM » January 20th, 2010, 5:32 pm

Sure is. Sounds like the price of the fine is just a "cost of doing business".

Yet another black eye for the trade.

Thanks for posting this, I'm passing it along.

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Re: cyanide fishing

Postby bobimport » January 20th, 2010, 5:51 pm

anyone know if it is ok to export fish from there?
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Re: cyanide fishing

Postby GreshamH » January 20th, 2010, 6:24 pm

bobimport wrote:anyone know if it is ok to export fish from there?


FW I am nearly positive you can but not sure on marine.
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Re: cyanide fishing

Postby dizzy » January 20th, 2010, 7:04 pm

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Re: cyanide fishing

Postby Fish_dave » January 20th, 2010, 8:22 pm

It is not legal to export Marine species from Thailand except for a few certified tank raised species. These guys were catching for the local market in Thailand.

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Re: cyanide fishing

Postby GreshamH » January 20th, 2010, 9:20 pm

dizzy wrote:http://www.marinefishtaiwan.com/



What does Taiwan have to do with Thailand marine fish export?
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Re: cyanide fishing

Postby dizzy » January 21st, 2010, 9:16 am

All those T's..... A's.....and....... I's look alike to me. :oops: It came up in a search for Thailand Marine fish.

To Dave's post, I remember get spammed from Nemo Clown Farm sometime ago. I think there is a thread on it somewhere in this forum. Anyway they may have gone under cause when I looked for them I found this: Perculawholesale.com Sale Nemo/marine fish/clown - Welcome to ...
The farm is located on 2-rai plot of land in Samae-Sarn Village, 40 minutes from Pattaya, within a two-storey building to house broodstocks. ...
http://www.perculawholesale.com/farm.html
And the link is dead.
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Re: cyanide fishing

Postby Fish_dave » January 21st, 2010, 1:27 pm

Yes the Nemo farm was part of the tank raised fish that they gave an exemption to and allowed to be shipped out. A few years ago when Nemo farm started shipping I was offered wild caught ocellaris from Thailand. They were apparently getting a permit to ship tank raised and shipping wild instead. This was not the Nemo farm shipping wild but another shipper that popped up. That may be the reason that we don't see the tank raised fish from Thailand anymore, they may have stopped it due to abuse of the tank raised permits. Once you allow limited numbers or species to go out legally it is very hard to insure that other non allowed species do not get out also. It is much easier to just have a blanket ban that covers all marine species. If you allow some tank raised fish to go out then wild ones start to trickle out with them, if you allow captive raised clams out then soon a few wild ones start showing up also. It is the nature of our greed to always push the limit on what is allowed.

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Re: cyanide fishing

Postby Vili_Shark » January 21st, 2010, 11:08 pm

Im pretty sure the fish were collected for the local market in Thailand.

There is no export of Marine fish in Thailand besides the Clown fish, as Dave said.

There're at least 2 farms there and they have quite large numbers on various "Nemos", i wonder why you guys dont see them in the states more often.

The whole situation in Thailand is pretty complicated, from what I understand, basiclly everything is not legal, but better ask somebody from there like Ching Chai.
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Re: cyanide fishing

Postby GreshamH » January 22nd, 2010, 2:18 pm

dizzy wrote:All those T's..... A's.....and....... I's look alike to me. :oops: It came up in a search for Thailand Marine fish.


Oh I hear you on that one :)
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Re: cyanide fishing

Postby ctenophore » January 25th, 2010, 11:49 am

dizzy wrote:All those T's..... A's.....and....... I's look alike to me. :oops: It came up in a search for Thailand Marine fish.

To Dave's post, I remember get spammed from Nemo Clown Farm sometime ago. I think there is a thread on it somewhere in this forum. Anyway they may have gone under cause when I looked for them I found this: Perculawholesale.com Sale Nemo/marine fish/clown - Welcome to ...
The farm is located on 2-rai plot of land in Samae-Sarn Village, 40 minutes from Pattaya, within a two-storey building to house broodstocks. ...
http://www.perculawholesale.com/farm.html
And the link is dead.


Not sure if this is the same place, but a buddy of mine just went to Thailand and got a behind-the-scenes tour of this large clownfish farm:
http://www.wamas.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=34493
(scroll down halfway)

They are alive and well. Apparently they send many of their 15k/month fish to Europe.
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Re: cyanide fishing

Postby GreshamH » January 25th, 2010, 1:03 pm

ctenophore wrote:
dizzy wrote:All those T's..... A's.....and....... I's look alike to me. :oops: It came up in a search for Thailand Marine fish.

To Dave's post, I remember get spammed from Nemo Clown Farm sometime ago. I think there is a thread on it somewhere in this forum. Anyway they may have gone under cause when I looked for them I found this: Perculawholesale.com Sale Nemo/marine fish/clown - Welcome to ...
The farm is located on 2-rai plot of land in Samae-Sarn Village, 40 minutes from Pattaya, within a two-storey building to house broodstocks. ...
http://www.perculawholesale.com/farm.html
And the link is dead.


Not sure if this is the same place, but a buddy of mine just went to Thailand and got a behind-the-scenes tour of this large clownfish farm:
http://www.wamas.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=34493
(scroll down halfway)

They are alive and well. Apparently they send many of their 15k/month fish to Europe.


That really took some looking so here it is for anyone that doesn't want to navigate that website:

http://www.wamas.org/forums/index.php?s ... ntry297201

They released 5K of them to restore a reef? Wonder just how many of those lived?
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