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[bobimport]

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[Ben]

Are you going to be doing A. palmata?

[Checker]

Not legal to posses in the US with out a permit so doesn't matter if he can ship it.

[Checker]

We will be shipping caribbean coral starting june 1. This will be the only legal source of Caribbean coral in the world.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... e565cf7b2d

I do not think there is a market for ugly brown/gray ricordea...

hopefully that is not the "Caribbean Coral" you speak of (which is the only thing pictured on your link)

[bobimport]

Re Ugly Ricordea funny I have been selling football size ricordea for $100+ nope no Elk Horn trying not to go to the gray bar hotel try this Isophyllia sinuosa Scolymia lacera Scolymia cubensis ( all over the place) Mussa angulosa 12" across
and oh yes red rodactus

[Ben]

OK my bad, still there are a lot of neat Caribbean LPS.

[Checker]

OK my bad, still there are a lot of neat Caribbean LPS.

No doubt! Some of my favorites come from there

[mwp]

I ask solely out of curiousity as I am planning a Florida-themed display reef but have NOT yet researched my corals (in other words, I'm asking a question that given research, I could probably find an answer to somewhere else. Fish breeding is my thing...yo.).

Is it legal to possess the Florida type Fire Corals I saw growing off the Keys? Is this species permitted or outlawed in the US?

[jhemdal]

Matt,

My understanding, (but I'm NOT a lawyer!) is that Caribbean stony corals that are found growing on FARMED live rock are legal for sale in the U.S. However, Acropora palmata and A. cervicornis are ESA listed - so any possesion of those would likely still be illegal unless there was a permit granted. Millepora should be fine if it is growing on cultured live rock. ANY wild collected stony corals are highly illegal of course.

Jay Hemdal

p.s. - see you at the MBI conference in a couple of weeks?

[mwp]

p.s. - see you at the MBI conference in a couple of weeks?

Ha, not even....it's next weekend Jay! Definitely meet you there! BTW thanks - I have heard basically the same thing re: live rock.

[jeff@zina.com]

Collection of coral in Florida is regulated, but legal for most varieties (not staghorn, elkhorn or fire coral though). See:

http://www.eregulations.com/florida/fis ... /pageFlip/

Page 10.

Jeff

[mwp]

Collection of coral in Florida is regulated, but legal for most varieties (not staghorn, elkhorn or fire coral though). See:

http://www.eregulations.com/florida/fis ... /pageFlip/

Page 10.

Jeff

Actually I read this a bit differently, as ALL hard corals, including fire corals and acroporids, but also any other coral we'd normally call "LPS" or "SPS", are part of the prohibition, as are Sea Fans too. Which leaves only Gorgonians and Polyps. The live rock workaround is great..just kinda wish it included Stag and Elk as well but I get how it wouldn't.

[jeff@zina.com]

Actually I read this a bit differently, as ALL hard corals...

You don't read it differently, you just explain it differently.

Jeff

[mwp]

Actually I read this a bit differently, as ALL hard corals...

You don't read it differently, you just explain it differently.

Jeff

I think it's just the "legal for most varieties" part that I'm not seeing. Looks more like it should read "illegal for most varieties"

[coprolite]

Collection of any and all Gorgonia as well as any and all scleractinian corals in Florida is ILLEGAL.

Possession is only illegal for Acropora.

[mwp]

Collection of any and all Gorgonia as well as any and all scleractinian corals in Florida is ILLEGAL.

Just to avoid any confusion, Gorgonia = Sea Fans. Not Gorgonians.

[Checker]

Collection of any and all Gorgonia as well as any and all scleractinian corals in Florida is ILLEGAL.

Just to avoid any confusion, Gorgonia = Sea Fans. Not Gorgonians.

really? Its always been my understanding that "gorgonia" is used for sea fans/sea whips/gorgonians.

[mwp]

Gorgonia is a genus. The genus with all the off-limits sea fans. Gorgonians (gorgonia not being the plural of the singular gorgonian) are collected and shipped out of Florida all the time by ever collector down there...but good luck getting them to touch a sea fan. That's my take. A confusing issue to be sure, which is why I felt a need to clarify the "collection of any and all Gorgonia is illegal" because in fact if you take "Gorgonia" to be the plural of the common name "gorgonian", well, all those OTHER Octocorals would be off limits, which they are not per the rules - http://myfwc.com/fishing/saltwater/regu ... m-species/ - only sea fans (Gorgonia) are off limits in FL.

[Checker]

Your last sentence kinda supports what I am saying (Gorgonia) Yes its a genus, its also used as a common name, like dog rather than canine.