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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby wings » June 7th, 2012, 10:27 am

And shovel ready jobs?
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby wings » June 7th, 2012, 10:27 am

Wnat me to keep trying? :lol: It's like shooting fish in a bucket. :lol:
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby EddyP » June 7th, 2012, 10:28 am

wings wrote:
EddyP wrote:
wings wrote:
Flabello Meandroid wrote:Sorry, I thought that's what you were saying.


He acts like he's governing from the "center", but in reality, he's way left as this article points out. If he truly a centrist, I think the markets, and economy would have picked up on that. Clearly he's not.

The S&P 500 is up about 75% since he was elected.

So try again.


And the dow?

Closer to 30%.
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby EddyP » June 7th, 2012, 10:32 am

wings wrote:Wnat me to keep trying? :lol: It's like shooting fish in a bucket. :lol:

Yeah. It's funny to watch you be wrong so often. You must be a terrible shot.

You make some silly statement about the "market" and you're dead wrong. Not even close to reality.
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby EddyP » June 7th, 2012, 10:35 am

For a socialist, there sure are a lot of government jobs disappearing. But I don't want the facts to spoil your fantasy. :lol:
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby wings » June 7th, 2012, 10:49 am

EddyP wrote:For a socialist, there sure are a lot of government jobs disappearing. But I don't want the facts to spoil your fantasy. :lol:


Keep laughing. It's all about the economy, stupid. Obama's socialism is being rejected much bigger than anyone one the left is willing to say. Mags has been the most honest so far here.
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby EddyP » June 7th, 2012, 10:55 am

wings wrote:
EddyP wrote:For a socialist, there sure are a lot of government jobs disappearing. But I don't want the facts to spoil your fantasy. :lol:


Keep laughing. It's all about the economy, stupid. Obama's socialism is being rejected much bigger than anyone one the left is willing to say. Mags has been the most honest so far here.

Oh. So you want to change the subject now.

I totally agree it's about the economy. I have said that too.

But the "socialism" talk is just **** stupid. Then you try to defend it with bogus claims about "the market". Come on. I hope you don't really believe that crap.
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby wings » June 7th, 2012, 10:55 am

EddyP wrote:
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EddyP wrote:For a socialist, there sure are a lot of government jobs disappearing. But I don't want the facts to spoil your fantasy. :lol:


Keep laughing. It's all about the economy, stupid. Obama's socialism is being rejected much bigger than anyone one the left is willing to say. Mags has been the most honest so far here.

Oh. So you want to change the subject now.

I totally agree it's about the economy. I have said that too.

But the "socialism" talk is just **** stupid. Then you try to defend it with bogus claims about "the market". Come on. I hope you don't really believe that crap.


Is it stupid? So he didn't join?
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby EddyP » June 7th, 2012, 10:58 am

wings wrote:
EddyP wrote:
wings wrote:
EddyP wrote:For a socialist, there sure are a lot of government jobs disappearing. But I don't want the facts to spoil your fantasy. :lol:


Keep laughing. It's all about the economy, stupid. Obama's socialism is being rejected much bigger than anyone one the left is willing to say. Mags has been the most honest so far here.

Oh. So you want to change the subject now.

I totally agree it's about the economy. I have said that too.

But the "socialism" talk is just **** stupid. Then you try to defend it with bogus claims about "the market". Come on. I hope you don't really believe that crap.


Is it stupid? So he didn't join?

Yeah. He's a socialist. Forcing people to give their money to public companies and government jobs being cut left and right under him. But he signed some pledge for some silly group. :lol:

Whatever makes you feel better.
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby wings » June 7th, 2012, 10:59 am

EddyP wrote:
wings wrote:
EddyP wrote:
wings wrote:
EddyP wrote:For a socialist, there sure are a lot of government jobs disappearing. But I don't want the facts to spoil your fantasy. :lol:


Keep laughing. It's all about the economy, stupid. Obama's socialism is being rejected much bigger than anyone one the left is willing to say. Mags has been the most honest so far here.

Oh. So you want to change the subject now.

I totally agree it's about the economy. I have said that too.

But the "socialism" talk is just **** stupid. Then you try to defend it with bogus claims about "the market". Come on. I hope you don't really believe that crap.


Is it stupid? So he didn't join?

Yeah. He's a socialist. Forcing people to give their money to public companies and government jobs being cut left and right under him. But he signed some pledge for some silly group. :lol:

Whatever makes you feel better.


I feel fine. :D
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby Flabello Meandroid » June 7th, 2012, 11:01 am

wings wrote:
Flabello Meandroid wrote:
wings wrote:
Flabello Meandroid wrote:Sorry, I thought that's what you were saying.


He acts like he's governing from the "center", but in reality, he's way left as this article points out. If he truly a centrist, I think the markets, and economy would have picked up on that. Clearly he's not.
I think your views of market forces are a bit skewed by your partisan tendencies


Or maybe the fact that I'm in a LOT of small businesses on a regular basis? na. I should just throw that out the window and blindly follow you.


Not sure where you would be blindly following me- I suggested nothing.
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby EddyP » June 7th, 2012, 11:04 am

So wings, these business owners who hate Obamacare and socialism - what do they think about the godfather of Obamacare, Romney? They may not love him, but I sure bet they don't call him a socialist. :lol:
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby wings » June 7th, 2012, 11:08 am

EddyP wrote:So wings, these business owners who hate Obamacare and socialism - what do they think about the godfather of Obamacare, Romney?


They aren't too happy with him about that either. I'm also not a huge fan of Romney, although I'd hope that his business experience will help with the economy, and that's probably the sentiment across the board.
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby EddyP » June 7th, 2012, 11:10 am

wings wrote:
EddyP wrote:So wings, these business owners who hate Obamacare and socialism - what do they think about the godfather of Obamacare, Romney?


They aren't too happy with him about that either. I'm also not a huge fan of Romney, although I'd hope that his business experience will help with the economy, and that's probably the sentiment across the board.

Ah. So you support more borrowing in order to finance growth. Interesting. I figured you for more of a "spend less" kind of guy.
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby wings » June 7th, 2012, 11:12 am

EddyP wrote:
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EddyP wrote:So wings, these business owners who hate Obamacare and socialism - what do they think about the godfather of Obamacare, Romney?


They aren't too happy with him about that either. I'm also not a huge fan of Romney, although I'd hope that his business experience will help with the economy, and that's probably the sentiment across the board.

Ah. So you support more borrowing in order to finance growth. Interesting. I figured you for more of a "spend less" kind of guy.


Ahh, no. I support private equity, and an infusion of cash on a calculated risk, if that's your poison. I don't think using tax payer money to do these things is the way to go. Also, Romney is smart with cash. Feel free to take a look at Obama's finances ... they're a mess.
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby Flabello Meandroid » June 7th, 2012, 11:15 am

Someone forgot to turn off the random nonsense generator! :evil:
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby Bierboy » June 7th, 2012, 11:17 am

wings wrote:
Bierboy wrote:So, how does this make him a Socialist? He certainly has not governed like one.


Obamacare?

Here is a list of known communists and America haters that also supported the individual mandate.

The Heritage Foundation

S.1743 - 103rd Congress

Sen Bennett, Robert F. [UT] - 11/20/1993
Sen Brown, Hank [CO] - 11/20/1993
Sen Burns, Conrad R. [MT] - 11/20/1993
Sen Coats, Daniel [IN] - 11/20/1993
Sen Cochran, Thad [MS] - 11/20/1993
Sen Coverdell, Paul [GA] - 11/20/1993
Sen Craig, Larry E. [ID] - 11/20/1993
Sen Dole, Robert J. [KS] - 11/20/1993
Sen Faircloth, Lauch [NC] - 11/20/1993
Sen Grassley, Chuck [IA] - 11/20/1993
Sen Gregg, Judd [NH] - 11/20/1993
Sen Hatch, Orrin G. [UT] - 11/20/1993
Sen Helms, Jesse [NC] - 11/20/1993
Sen Hutchison, Kay Bailey [TX] - 11/20/1993
Sen Kempthorne, Dirk [ID] - 11/20/1993
Sen Lott, Trent [MS] - 11/20/1993
Sen Lugar, Richard G. [IN] - 11/20/1993
Sen Mack, Connie, III [FL] - 11/20/1993
Sen Murkowski, Frank H. [AK] - 11/20/1993
Sen Simpson, Alan K. [WY] - 11/20/1993
Sen Smith, Bob [NH] - 11/20/1993
Sen Stevens, Ted [AK] - 11/20/1993
Sen Thurmond, Strom [SC] - 11/20/1993
Sen Wallop, Malcolm [WY] - 11/20/1993

S.1770 - 103rd Congress

Sen Bennett, Robert F. [UT] - 11/22/1993
Sen Bond, Christopher S. [MO] - 11/22/1993
Sen Boren, David L. [OK] - 5/17/1994
Sen Cohen, William S. [ME] - 11/22/1993
Sen Danforth, John C. [MO] - 11/22/1993
Sen Dole, Robert J. [KS] - 11/22/1993
Sen Domenici, Pete V. [NM] - 11/22/1993
Sen Durenberger, Dave [MN] - 11/22/1993
Sen Faircloth, Lauch [NC] - 11/22/1993
Sen Gorton, Slade [WA] - 11/22/1993
Sen Grassley, Chuck [IA] - 11/22/1993
Sen Hatch, Orrin G. [UT] - 11/22/1993
Sen Hatfield, Mark O. [OR] - 11/22/1993
Sen Kassebaum, Nancy Landon [KS] - 11/22/1993
Sen Kerrey, J. Robert [NE] - 5/17/1994
Sen Lugar, Richard G. [IN] - 11/22/1993
Sen Simpson, Alan K. [WY] - 11/22/1993
Sen Specter, Arlen [PA] - 11/22/1993
Sen Stevens, Ted [AK] - 11/22/1993
Sen Warner, John [VA] - 11/22/1993
Sen Brown, Hank [CO] - 11/22/1993(withdrawn - 10/4/1994)
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby Bierboy » June 7th, 2012, 11:18 am

wings wrote:
Flabello Meandroid wrote:Sorry, I thought that's what you were saying.


He acts like he's governing from the "center", but in reality, he's way left as this article points out. If he truly a centrist, I think the markets, and economy would have picked up on that. Clearly he's not.

You give the President way too much power. Also, Wall Street loves this President.
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby Bierboy » June 7th, 2012, 11:19 am

EddyP wrote:
wings wrote:
Flabello Meandroid wrote:Sorry, I thought that's what you were saying.


He acts like he's governing from the "center", but in reality, he's way left as this article points out. If he truly a centrist, I think the markets, and economy would have picked up on that. Clearly he's not.

The S&P 500 is up about 40% since he was elected.

So try again.

The Dow also.
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Re: So Bier, he IS a socialst...

Postby Bierboy » June 7th, 2012, 11:20 am

wings wrote:
EddyP wrote:
wings wrote:
Flabello Meandroid wrote:Sorry, I thought that's what you were saying.


He acts like he's governing from the "center", but in reality, he's way left as this article points out. If he truly a centrist, I think the markets, and economy would have picked up on that. Clearly he's not.

The S&P 500 is up about 75% since he was elected.

So try again.


And the dow?

It was something like 7800 when he took office and is over 12,000 now. You were saying?
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