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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby wings » August 17th, 2012, 1:12 pm

JimM wrote:
wings wrote:
JimM wrote:
wings wrote:
JimM wrote:
EddyP wrote:It's not just the lying.

It's the **** stance that stimulus is wasteful then claiming it's helpful.


Exactly, which is why I said he should answer for it at the time - rather than pretending like it didn't happen.
I hate these guys.


Hey, your man O is doing the same thing.


Obama engaged in this exact same behavior? Sure about that?


Lying? Is gitmo closed yet? How about those millions of shovel-ready-jobs? (dumb term to begin with, but I digress)


Oh so now we're deflecting into other areas - OK :lol:
I don't think running into a political quagmire with regard to Gitmo is the same as lying.
Like when Bush Sr. said "no more new taxes!" He wasn't lying - he just realized he couldn't do it.
Try to see the differences in these things.


I think you have to lie in order to be in this race...the question becomes, who's the better liar.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby Matt_ » August 17th, 2012, 10:08 pm

wings wrote:I think you have to lie in order to be in this race...the question becomes, who's the better liar.


Sounds like poor loser sour grapes already. :lol:
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby SpaceAce » August 18th, 2012, 7:07 am

wings wrote:
JimM wrote:
wings wrote:
JimM wrote:
wings wrote:
JimM wrote:
EddyP wrote:It's not just the lying.

It's the **** stance that stimulus is wasteful then claiming it's helpful.


Exactly, which is why I said he should answer for it at the time - rather than pretending like it didn't happen.
I hate these guys.


Hey, your man O is doing the same thing.


Obama engaged in this exact same behavior? Sure about that?


Lying? Is gitmo closed yet? How about those millions of shovel-ready-jobs? (dumb term to begin with, but I digress)


Oh so now we're deflecting into other areas - OK :lol:
I don't think running into a political quagmire with regard to Gitmo is the same as lying.
Like when Bush Sr. said "no more new taxes!" He wasn't lying - he just realized he couldn't do it.
Try to see the differences in these things.


I think you have to lie in order to be in this race...the question becomes, who's the better liar.


I think you pretty much have to lie to be in any race. If not an outright lie an ommision of something.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby _Andy » August 18th, 2012, 7:30 am

It seems to me ther eis a difference between stimulus money and money states get for day to day stuff. I am out of the loop on this though.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby wings » August 18th, 2012, 9:06 am

Matt_ wrote:
wings wrote:I think you have to lie in order to be in this race...the question becomes, who's the better liar.


Sounds like poor loser sour grapes already. :lol:


Wanna put money on it?
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby Matt_ » August 18th, 2012, 9:09 am

wings wrote:
Matt_ wrote:
wings wrote:I think you have to lie in order to be in this race...the question becomes, who's the better liar.


Sounds like poor loser sour grapes already. :lol:


Wanna put money on it?


Sure.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby wings » August 18th, 2012, 9:18 am

Matt_ wrote:
wings wrote:
Matt_ wrote:
wings wrote:I think you have to lie in order to be in this race...the question becomes, who's the better liar.


Sounds like poor loser sour grapes already. :lol:


Wanna put money on it?


Sure.


So, you want to bet that RR will NOT beat OB? Name your price.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby The Escaped Ape » August 18th, 2012, 9:45 am

I thought this was going to be a story about him being pulled over for curb-crawling in a Prius.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby Matt_ » August 18th, 2012, 11:29 am

wings wrote:
Matt_ wrote:
wings wrote:
Matt_ wrote:
wings wrote:I think you have to lie in order to be in this race...the question becomes, who's the better liar.


Sounds like poor loser sour grapes already. :lol:


Wanna put money on it?


Sure.


So, you want to bet that RR will NOT beat OB? Name your price.


Romney/Ryan wins, I lose. Obama/Biden wins, you lose. Any other outcome--assassination, election suspension, etc. means we draw. Sound good?

$20 seems like a nice friendly amount.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby JimM » August 18th, 2012, 11:32 am

SpaceAce wrote:
wings wrote:
JimM wrote:
wings wrote:
JimM wrote:
wings wrote:
JimM wrote:
EddyP wrote:It's not just the lying.

It's the **** stance that stimulus is wasteful then claiming it's helpful.


Exactly, which is why I said he should answer for it at the time - rather than pretending like it didn't happen.
I hate these guys.


Hey, your man O is doing the same thing.


Obama engaged in this exact same behavior? Sure about that?


Lying? Is gitmo closed yet? How about those millions of shovel-ready-jobs? (dumb term to begin with, but I digress)


Oh so now we're deflecting into other areas - OK :lol:
I don't think running into a political quagmire with regard to Gitmo is the same as lying.
Like when Bush Sr. said "no more new taxes!" He wasn't lying - he just realized he couldn't do it.
Try to see the differences in these things.


I think you have to lie in order to be in this race...the question becomes, who's the better liar.


I think you pretty much have to lie to be in any race. If not an outright lie an ommision of something.


That's silly - so any person running for county commissioner, mayor, or state rep automatically has something to omit?
I can tell you that's not the case.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby wings » August 18th, 2012, 12:52 pm

milz for now
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby SpaceAce » August 18th, 2012, 1:16 pm

JimM wrote:
SpaceAce wrote:
wings wrote:
JimM wrote:
wings wrote:
JimM wrote:
wings wrote:
JimM wrote:
EddyP wrote:It's not just the lying.

It's the **** stance that stimulus is wasteful then claiming it's helpful.


Exactly, which is why I said he should answer for it at the time - rather than pretending like it didn't happen.
I hate these guys.


Hey, your man O is doing the same thing.


Obama engaged in this exact same behavior? Sure about that?


Lying? Is gitmo closed yet? How about those millions of shovel-ready-jobs? (dumb term to begin with, but I digress)


Oh so now we're deflecting into other areas - OK :lol:
I don't think running into a political quagmire with regard to Gitmo is the same as lying.
Like when Bush Sr. said "no more new taxes!" He wasn't lying - he just realized he couldn't do it.
Try to see the differences in these things.


I think you have to lie in order to be in this race...the question becomes, who's the better liar.


I think you pretty much have to lie to be in any race. If not an outright lie an ommision of something.


That's silly - so any person running for county commissioner, mayor, or state rep automatically has something to omit?
I can tell you that's not the case.


Really? I want every case of someone running for any office. I want all information and proof, toy dog in cute girly sweater boy.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby Matt_ » August 18th, 2012, 5:11 pm

wings wrote:milz for now


You don't get to wait until the polls indicate whether you should or should not take the bet. :P Offer stands until Sunday evening.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby wings » August 18th, 2012, 5:15 pm

Matt_ wrote:
wings wrote:milz for now


You don't get to wait until the polls indicate whether you should or should not take the bet. :P Offer stands until Sunday evening.


I was thinking about possibly going higher.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby Matt_ » August 18th, 2012, 5:19 pm

wings wrote:
Matt_ wrote:
wings wrote:milz for now


You don't get to wait until the polls indicate whether you should or should not take the bet. :P Offer stands until Sunday evening.


I was thinking about possibly going higher.


I don't really want to place an anonymous bet on the internet for more than $20. No offense, but I have no idea who you are. It'd be like buying something from someone on ebay with no seller ratings.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby JimM » August 18th, 2012, 5:25 pm

John's a good guy - no worries.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby Matt_ » August 18th, 2012, 5:29 pm

That's less than comforting. $20 is my offer--take it or leave it.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby JimM » August 18th, 2012, 5:31 pm

You can easily risk $20.63
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby Matt_ » August 18th, 2012, 5:47 pm

Even if it were an idealized 50/50 bet, it's a loser's bet from both sides. I don't generally enter into losing wagers for much more than a few bucks.
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Re: Ryan denied stimulus while quietly seeking it

Postby JimM » August 18th, 2012, 5:51 pm

I don't either - a pound of good coffee isn't exactly cheap - this is unusual for me.
In fact I can't remember the last time I wagered anybody about anything.
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