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Re: Lizzie Borden House

Postby tangirl » August 7th, 2013, 2:59 pm

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Re: Lizzie Borden House

Postby Matt_ » August 7th, 2013, 3:25 pm

_Andy wrote:You've never read a book or watched a movie about real murders?


Of course I have, but there is kind of a difference between reading about the OJ murders vs. hanging out where the victims were killed and taking pictures and such.
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Re: Lizzie Borden House

Postby SpaceAce » August 7th, 2013, 3:29 pm

Don't you think time changes that in some ways? I don't have a desire to go to random murder sites to take pictures. Add 100 years and its a tourist attraction.
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Re: Lizzie Borden House

Postby Matt_ » August 7th, 2013, 3:42 pm

SpaceAce wrote:Don't you think time changes that in some ways? I don't have a desire to go to random murder sites to take pictures. Add 100 years and its a tourist attraction.


Yeah, it does. I'm trying to think of an older analogous murder scene that people visit but am failing. Maybe like the top of a Meso-American pyramid where they sacrificed people?

I think the whole idea of a house being "haunted" is internalizing the knowledge that something bad happened there a long time ago. It's an acknowledgement that the acts carry some weight long after the deed is done and all the participants are dead. If you thought you were just in a random B&B I doubt you'd feel any creepiness at all (other than from the interior decorating, blech). So time does change it in some ways but also doesn't in other ways.
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Re: Lizzie Borden House

Postby Matt_ » August 7th, 2013, 3:44 pm

OJ was 20 years ago. Yikes, we're old. How about the house where Sharon Tate was killed? That's like 50 years ago now, right? Still kinda creepy place to visit I'd think.
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Re: Lizzie Borden House

Postby seven » August 7th, 2013, 3:47 pm

Matt_ wrote:
SpaceAce wrote:Don't you think time changes that in some ways? I don't have a desire to go to random murder sites to take pictures. Add 100 years and its a tourist attraction.


Yeah, it does. I'm trying to think of an older analogous murder scene that people visit but am failing. Maybe like the top of a Meso-American pyramid where they sacrificed people?

I think the whole idea of a house being "haunted" is internalizing the knowledge that something bad happened there a long time ago. It's an acknowledgement that the acts carry some weight long after the deed is done and all the participants are dead. If you thought you were just in a random B&B I doubt you'd feel any creepiness at all (other than from the interior decorating, blech). So time does change it in some ways but also doesn't in other ways.


Amityville qualifies I would think...
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Re: Lizzie Borden House

Postby seven » August 7th, 2013, 3:48 pm

Matt_ wrote:OJ was 20 years ago. Yikes, we're old. How about the house where Sharon Tate was killed? That's like 50 years ago now, right? Still kinda creepy place to visit I'd think.


How about the caves that the family hung out in and Charlie used as a bolt hole?
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Re: Lizzie Borden House

Postby Matt_ » August 7th, 2013, 3:50 pm

seven wrote:
Matt_ wrote:OJ was 20 years ago. Yikes, we're old. How about the house where Sharon Tate was killed? That's like 50 years ago now, right? Still kinda creepy place to visit I'd think.


How about the caves that the family hung out in and Charlie used as a bolt hole?


:?:

Not familiar with that...
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Re: Lizzie Borden House

Postby seven » August 7th, 2013, 3:56 pm

Matt_ wrote:
seven wrote:
Matt_ wrote:OJ was 20 years ago. Yikes, we're old. How about the house where Sharon Tate was killed? That's like 50 years ago now, right? Still kinda creepy place to visit I'd think.


How about the caves that the family hung out in and Charlie used as a bolt hole?


:?:

Not familiar with that...


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Re: Lizzie Borden House

Postby SpaceAce » August 7th, 2013, 4:16 pm

Matt_ wrote:
SpaceAce wrote:Don't you think time changes that in some ways? I don't have a desire to go to random murder sites to take pictures. Add 100 years and its a tourist attraction.


Yeah, it does. I'm trying to think of an older analogous murder scene that people visit but am failing. Maybe like the top of a Meso-American pyramid where they sacrificed people?

I think the whole idea of a house being "haunted" is internalizing the knowledge that something bad happened there a long time ago. It's an acknowledgement that the acts carry some weight long after the deed is done and all the participants are dead. If you thought you were just in a random B&B I doubt you'd feel any creepiness at all (other than from the interior decorating, blech). So time does change it in some ways but also doesn't in other ways.


Absolutely. I believe that there is something out there and I have a desire to witness something. I understand that has a lot to do with how I feel going into places like the Borden house. I was there with people that really believe and it was obvious that everything they saw or heard including the floor creaking was a possible ghost. Made some people jump. It was funny. :lol:

As we were touring the house with the guide on the third floor attic space I had heart jumping experience. The group was going down the attic steps and I thought I was the last person. As I'm heading down I see a shadow on the wall and my heart skipped. Was this the moment where something happens that I can believe? Nope. The guide was behind me. I didn't see him behind me. Oh we'll it was at least a roller coaster moment. :lol:
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Re: Lizzie Borden House

Postby _Andy » August 7th, 2013, 4:35 pm

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