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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby Bierboy » September 20th, 2013, 4:33 pm

EddyP wrote:Rs completely **** down their leg on this. Dems and prez all kinds of confused now. Perfect time to push for some reasonable cuts we need. But no. The **** in the house go full retard. So sad.

Are you kidding? Dems are salivating. They are gonna let republicans board the crazy train.
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby Bierboy » September 20th, 2013, 4:33 pm

MegaDeTH wrote:a whole bunch of them ran on and were voted in to do exactly what they are trying to do

kinda hard to fault them for that

They were not elected to shut down the federal gov't or mess up the credit of the US.
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby MegaDeTH » September 20th, 2013, 4:35 pm

Bierboy wrote:
MegaDeTH wrote:a whole bunch of them ran on and were voted in to do exactly what they are trying to do

kinda hard to fault them for that

They were not elected to shut down the federal gov't or mess up the credit of the US.


yeah cuz that's what they just sent to the senate :roll:
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby Snailman » September 20th, 2013, 4:36 pm

Bierboy wrote:
MegaDeTH wrote:a whole bunch of them ran on and were voted in to do exactly what they are trying to do

kinda hard to fault them for that

They were not elected to shut down the federal gov't or mess up the credit of the US.


I thought they were elected to repeal Obamacare and cut spending. They just passed a bill that accomplishes that didnt they?
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby Bierboy » September 20th, 2013, 4:39 pm

Snailman wrote:
Bierboy wrote:
MegaDeTH wrote:a whole bunch of them ran on and were voted in to do exactly what they are trying to do

kinda hard to fault them for that

They were not elected to shut down the federal gov't or mess up the credit of the US.


I thought they were elected to repeal Obamacare and cut spending. They just passed a bill that accomplishes that didnt they?

No, it doesn't.
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby Wazzel » September 20th, 2013, 4:40 pm

Bierboy wrote:The gov't will shut down for less than 2 weeks -- long enough for folks waiting for the Social Security checks, VA benefits, etc to get all riled up. Then there are the folks who won't be able to go to the museums in DC, national parks, or conduct any business with the feds. They are gonna be pissed and vocal. Republicans will take a beating in the press, get ripped to shreds at Town Hall meetings (if they are dumb enough to hold any) and they will get that look on their face like a rabbit does when it sees my dog coming after it. Republicans will cave and pass a clean long term CR and raise the debt ceiling after the savage beating they will have taken.

Meanwhile, the Tea Party crazies won't have learned a thing and will become even more whackadoodle crazy mad. Boehner is weakened to the point where his remaining Speaker is untenable. The only problem is that there is nobody in the conference that wants to lead this current bunch of crazies. After all, to do so would be a sure sign of insanity -- textbook definition, really. The civil war that has been brewing becomes bloody as the Tea Party drags the republican party deeper and deeper into the abyss.

Flash forward to Nov of next year, Dems only manage to gain a couple seats in the House and hold the Senate largely due to gerrymandering and the own complete and utter ineptness. I am guessing it is gonna be more of the latter than the former. Meanwhile, the Tea Party will have knocked off a few more moderate members thereby making the conference even more radicalized and ungovernable. We will have 2 more years of whatever this is until it finally gets settled with the next Presidential election.


It will not go that far. People know shutting down the government will cost votes. The fear of government benifits being cut off will be more than enough to get various groups up in arms. If would be nice if the morons and idiots (that is both sides, asign the lables to the side you choose) in congress could get their act together so we do not have to deal with this every few months.
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby _Andy » September 20th, 2013, 4:45 pm

BO on vacation in 3..2..1..
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby Bierboy » September 20th, 2013, 4:49 pm

_Andy wrote:BO on vacation in 3..2..1..

If I am not mistaken the House is going on recess next week. :wink:
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby Anemone of the State » September 20th, 2013, 4:50 pm

The Republican Congress needs to find an issue that everyone can get behind, like revoking food stamps for the poor.
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby MegaDeTH » September 20th, 2013, 5:00 pm

I'm fine with the issue they have right now, welfare reform will come when chicago and similar cities implode
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby beaslbob » September 20th, 2013, 5:02 pm

Guy wrote:I doubt it will have a significant affect on Wall Street. Not increasing the debt ceiling will though.

I'm not angry. They are doing what their constituents hired them to do.

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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby beaslbob » September 20th, 2013, 5:04 pm

What happens when the shut down the government and people find out not much changes? :lol:
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby Snailman » September 20th, 2013, 5:04 pm

Anemone of the State wrote:The Republican Congress needs to find an issue that everyone can get behind, like revoking food stamps for the poor.


That was in the bill. 8O
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby _Andy » September 20th, 2013, 5:08 pm

Bierboy wrote:
_Andy wrote:BO on vacation in 3..2..1..

If I am not mistaken the House is going on recess next week. :wink:


We don't 'pay' for their vacations though do we?
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby Prawnman » September 20th, 2013, 5:09 pm

beaslbob wrote:What happens when the shut down the government and people find out not much changes? :lol:


Well if its like the Sequestor, many of us felt it and still are, though, it raised some fees, and corrected some problems, that needed to be, so I cannot say its all bad (just costly to some of us).
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby Prawnman » September 20th, 2013, 5:09 pm

_Andy wrote:
Bierboy wrote:
_Andy wrote:BO on vacation in 3..2..1..

If I am not mistaken the House is going on recess next week. :wink:


We don't 'pay' for their vacations though do we?


Just for when they "work", which seems like less then they don't.
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby _Andy » September 20th, 2013, 5:10 pm

Boring warning:

17,679 Things the Federal Government Has Done Since Sequestration
Opponents of the sequester say budget cuts are ruining America and that austerity kills. Reason offers a look at what the feds have been up to since the cuts kicked in.
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby Bierboy » September 20th, 2013, 6:10 pm

Snailman wrote:
Anemone of the State wrote:The Republican Congress needs to find an issue that everyone can get behind, like revoking food stamps for the poor.


That was in the bill. 8O

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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby Bierboy » September 20th, 2013, 6:11 pm

beaslbob wrote:What happens when the shut down the government and people find out not much changes? :lol:

The same thing that happened last time around.
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Re: Oct 2013 government shutdown?

Postby Bierboy » September 20th, 2013, 6:12 pm

_Andy wrote:
Bierboy wrote:
_Andy wrote:BO on vacation in 3..2..1..

If I am not mistaken the House is going on recess next week. :wink:


We don't 'pay' for their vacations though do we?

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